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Travel Trac Fluid Trainer

Reid Weber
asked this on November 16, 2011 11:04 AM

Matt asked about this trainer but I couldn't find a speed to power curve for it online.

 

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daniel moreno

Hi matt, I have a travel trac millenium and I am about to build a power curve. I'll keep you posted.

November 18, 2011 10:04 AM
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Reid Weber
Trainer Road

I found formulas for TravelTrac Fluid with 0 to 5 resistance levels and Millenium V level 1 and 2. Let me know if you'd like to try any of those and I'll add them

December 12, 2011 10:24 AM
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tovi

If you could add them it would be great. I own a Star Trac Fluid Pro 2000 and have been using CycleOps in the meantime.

December 15, 2011 02:59 PM
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tovi

Sorry, I meant a Travel Trac 2000 Fluid.

December 15, 2011 03:05 PM
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Reid Weber
Trainer Road

I just added these two trainer profiles

(Beta) TravelTrac Millennium V level 1

(Beta) TravelTrac Millennium V level 2

I couldn't even find this trainer on the Performance Bikes website so I'm guessing it is discontinued

February 02, 2012 11:06 AM
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godaddygo

"I found formulas for TravelTrac Fluid with 0 to 5 resistance levels and Millenium V level 1 and 2. Let me know if you'd like to try any of those and I'll add them"

Question about this.  I see there is the TravelTrac Fluid+ 1 through 5 on the list of trainers.  Is this for resistance levels 1-5 or model number 1-5.  For example, I have the TravelTrac Fluid 5 trainer that has the adjustable resistance.  So when I select TravelTrac Fluid+ 5, am i selection the model or the level?  Thanks!

March 02, 2012 07:13 AM
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Reid Weber
Trainer Road

The one you choose should match the resistance level you have your trainer set on.  TravelTrac Fluid+ 3 would be if you have your trainer set to 3.  TravelTrac Fluid+ 5 would be if you have your trainer set on level 5.

March 02, 2012 09:10 AM
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godaddygo

Ah...ok!  That would explain why I was putting out some serious watts last night!  Might want to change description to TravelTrac Fluid+ Level 3 to eliminate the confusion since there was actually 5 models of the traveltrac fluid trainer!  Thanks again and so far, love the product, even with the quirks.

March 02, 2012 11:22 AM
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Reid Weber
Trainer Road

I agree. we need to make it clearer that those are resistance levels, not model numbers.  

March 02, 2012 11:31 AM
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rbn920

I have a travel trac fluid and was wondering if anyone knew if I could just choose one of the other travel trac trainers?

http://performancebike.com/bikes/Product2_10052_10551_1094973_-1

March 26, 2012 06:58 PM
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vegang

i have this travel trac fluid as well. is it not supported??? is there a trainer that you do support that might be in the ball park

May 19, 2012 04:32 PM
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vegang

actually  selecting travel trac fluid 1 will give power data

May 19, 2012 04:46 PM
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jcarlin2412

Anybody know which trainer to select for Travel Trac Comp Fluid. I'm guessing Travel Trac Fluid 4 or Fluid 3. It def isn't Travel Trac Century, almost killed myself just tying to stay at 200 watts.

July 30, 2012 07:02 PM
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jonathanadel

So, was it ever decided which Travel Trac to use if we have the Travel Trac 2000?

http://www.performancebike.com/images/performance/web/PDFs/00_traveltrac2000.pdf

August 21, 2012 09:16 AM
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cliffsch

So, I just setup a Travel Trac Century Fluid+ adjustable trainer and selected the Fluid 1 trainer for my workout on the easiest setting on the trainer.  Like jcarlin2412 I almost killed myself trying to stay even close to a 200 watt level.  Strava estimates my rides at around 200 watts, though I really have no idea what my FTP really is.  Given the default of 200 and my general fitness level, I have to believe the recommended adjustment down to 83 watts is way off on actual power.

Is there an alternate trainer I could be selecting that more closely models my trainer resistance?  

 

http://www.performancebike.com/reviews/performance/power/pwr/produc...

November 27, 2012 09:20 AM
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Reid Weber
Trainer Road

I recently added the TravelTrac Fluid. Give that a shot and see if the numbers look more realistic. 

November 28, 2012 03:16 PM
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cliffsch

I switched to the TravelTrac Fluid profile and it seems much better.  The numbers I get back are generally pretty close to the estimated numbers I see on Strava relative to perceived output.  I think this will be a good choice for relative measure for training for me - and at least put off the purchase of a different trainer for a while.

Thanks much!

December 09, 2012 06:47 AM
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laslavens

I just purchased the Travel Trac Fluid.  Im not sure the formula setting on the resistance power curve is correct.  As the two others have mentioned above it about killed me trying to stay at a 200 watt level.  I ensured that the correct trainer was selected in the settings so im not sure what is going on.  I contacted Performance Bike Tech Support 1-800-553-8324, and I inquired about the amount of resistance this unit has.  The rep said the amount of resistance is exponentially greater than other trainers.  I borrowed my friends Cyclops Mag and was about to spin 200 watt level with little effort compared to the Travel Trac Fluid.  The rep insured me that this is how their trainer is setup, gets progressively more resistance as you pedal harder.  Can anyone offer input?  To the others who have Travel Trac do you find the resistance level to be unlike those of other trainers.  This being my first trainer, I really have nothing to compare it to, but I know after using the borrowed Cyclops my friend let me use that those numbers were spot on with the level of rider I am.  Whereas the Travel Trac Fluid when used as stated, just staying at 200 watts is an all out grind.  Somethings not right???

December 10, 2012 02:16 PM
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cliffsch

@laslavens - are you using the alternate profile suggested?  The TravelTrac Fluid, that is.  Worked better for me and my model of TT fluid trainer.  It's still low, I believe, but certainly usable for the training I'm doing.

December 10, 2012 08:41 PM
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laslavens
Ya I was using the travel trac fluid setting as my selected trainer. The trainer is the problem, being a "self adjusting resistance" the trainer leaves no option but to kill yourself as it appears this is the way the trainer is setup to work. I fixed my issue, replaced the trainer with a Kurt Kinetic Road Machine....all good now!
December 13, 2012 12:32 AM
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cstoker

Is the consensus to use the travel trac fluid profile for the travel trac fluid comp? The resistance units are physically different, but I can't say how the resistance varies between the two.

January 23, 2013 12:41 PM
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cstoker
Here is the ā€¯power curve" from the side of the box for the travel track fluid comp. http://db.tt/hxNMmIsU
January 23, 2013 09:33 PM
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jasonflores78

I wanted to update everyone that I have been working with Chad@TrainerRoad and this week the Travel Trac Comp Fluid is now available as a power source.  We used @cstoker link to the power curve and made it happen.  Great job TrainerRoad!!!  

March 05, 2013 10:09 AM
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Michael Nebelsick

So, has anyone got an opinion on this power curve...  just got this trainer for my son and it seems MUCH harder than my 1upUSA (black flywheel) at the same workout (FTP) level.  Just curious if anyone else thinks this curve under-estimates the power? (or said another way you have to work too hard to produce the power you think you should be able to produce).  

March 14, 2013 03:57 PM
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jcarlin2412
Yeah the power is to low for the traveltrac comp fluid trainer. Just sold my power and used the comp fluid choice and it was way off. Switched to nashbar fluid 3. It's a little high bout it felt within 10-15 watts. Atleast around the 200 watt range.
March 14, 2013 04:04 PM
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jasonflores78

So you guys think that at 19mph on your bike that its not 200w? I only have this trainer but I go feel speeds above 22mph it is pretty tough.  Any insight from the TrainerRoad guys? What happens to the curve after 22mph is it just derived?

March 14, 2013 04:35 PM
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Michael Nebelsick

Hey, thought I would share this.  I created some graphs from some data I collected using my Power Tap and the Travel Trak Comp Fluid Trainer.  I also included the numbers I pulled off the graph off the power curve off the box as well... you can see it's significantly different, (BTW I did warm up the trainer for about 20 minutes before I started collecting data... while the trainer was cool it was even worse of course!)

https://www.dropbox.com/s/ksfqv6oun3ypwd1/FluidComp_Power_Curve.pdf

And Jason, to answer your question, I believe that the TrainerRoad guys use the third order polynomial approximation to convert the speed into power numbers, so yes, for speeds higher than 22mph it's also derived from the formula.  (You can see these formulas -- at least my approximations for the data I used on the graph as well.)  So, at least according to my data, that 19 mph is not 200W but closer to 300W... or put another way, 15 mph would yield 200W using this trainer, not 19mph... to me a pretty significant difference!)

March 17, 2013 05:20 PM
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jabiii

Out of curiosity, can anyone confirm what model the "TravelTrac Fluid" profile that's available currently corresponds to? I'm using this: http://www.performancebike.com/bikes/Product_10052_10551_1094973_-1_400133__400133, and wasn't sure if it's the same model that the power curve was built on.

April 11, 2013 06:05 PM
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rian bogle

I have an old Performance TravelTrac Fluid 3 and after messing around with multiple virtual power profiles I found the Nashbar Fluid 1 is a very close match (+-3watts) to the power readings on my PowerTap SL wired. Just FYI for those with similar trainers.

December 11, 2013 05:31 PM