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Kurt Kinetic inRide Power Meter

IMPORTANT NOTE:

Kinetic has released a newer version of the inRide which is not compatible with the Legacy (AIR) app. This is referred to as the "inRide 2".


The Kurt Kinetic inRide is a power meter that attaches to any Kurt Kinetic fluid trainer. The inRide will not work with other trainers.

The inRide uses Bluetooth Smart (4.0) communication protocol. Learn more about Bluetooth Smart and TrainerRoad.

 

 

How to Pair Your inRide with TrainerRoad

1. Open the TrainerRoad application and go to the Devices tab.

2. Scroll down to the list of Bluetooth devices, and click the "Pair" button next to inRide.

3. Wait for your inRide to pair with TrainerRoad.

"Searching for device" will be displayed until the power meter is found. You may need to pedal in order to "wake up" the inRide.

4. Your inRide is Now Paired!

The pairing box will turn green once your inRide is paired with TrainerRoad.

5. Performing a Spindown Calibration

Performing a spindown calibration ensures that your power readings are accurate. We recommend doing a spindown before each ride after the rear tire has warmed up. Spin for five or so minutes to warm the tire, click the button that says "Spindown", and follow the on-screen instructions that will appear. 


 

Pro Flywheel

Check the Pro Flywheel box if you have one installed on your trainer. Learn more about the Pro Flywheel.

 

Battery

The inRide will stay paired and "awake" while TrainerRoad is running. To save battery life, close TrainerRoad after your workout or unpair the inRide.

 


Troubleshooting

If you're having problems pairing the inRide, it may not be working correctly. To reset the inRide, remove the battery and put it in backwards for at least three seconds. After this is done, put the battery back in the normal way and try to pair it again with TrainerRoad.

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    Claude Gauthier

    Do I click on "Use power from elctronic trainer" or just use virtual power?

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    Alex Kizis

    Hi Claude,

    You'll want to have both of those boxes UN-checked if you're using the InRide.

    The "Use power from an electronic trainer" box only applies to members that are using a power meter alongside an electronic trainer (http://support.trainerroad.com/hc/en-us/articles/202164120-Electronic-Trainers-and-Power-Meters).

    The "Enable VirtualPower" box only applies to members that are connecting their speed sensor to TR to be converted to VirtualPower (http://support.trainerroad.com/hc/en-us/articles/201826364-How-it-Works).

    The Kinetic InRide is its own animal in that you can pair it directly to TrainerRoad and not have to worry about checking either of those boxes.

    I hope this helps, Claude!

    -Alex K

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    Claude Gauthier

    Wanted to do a fast ride after work but nothing was working right. I did two rides before and everything was right. Now, the speed is displayed when I check on "device" but no watts or something like 15600 watts appear. The workout also starts but no power on display and recorded. I took out the battery, put it on reverse side then back and it does nothing. Also, the pairing was lost and back on multiple times during test. I see messages appearing at the bottom of the screen about finding services and so on.

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    Bryce La May

    Claude, are you able to do a Spindown calibration? That should fix the problem, but the last user that had this problem was unable to get up to the required 36 km/h (22 mph) for the calibration because the inRide was so messed up. He ended up having to contact Kurt Kinetic and they sent him a new unit. I would recommend contacting them if you still can't get it working. Hope that helps!

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    Claude Gauthier

    Thanks but I uninstalled the bluegiga usb completely from my computer and re-installed it and it worked! Hope it doesn't start again!

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    Jordan Trump

    Every time I try to do a Spindown calibration, I end up with a figure that is under 2 seconds. That does not seem right to me? Have anyone seen this issue before?

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    Claude Gauthier

    Probably depends on the flywheel.... I installed the pro one and my numbers are around 6 seconds. What I don't like is doing the spindown in them middle of a workout. You have to stop completely, click on spindown and wait for calibration then click on end and wait until it resets itself then start the workout back. It takes more than a minute each time!

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    Claude Gauthier

    I'm highly deceived by the Inride. I read the article of DC rainmaker about the evaluation of the inride power vs real powermeters and thought this could replace my Powertap wheel. I did the 20 minutes FTP test today and saw that inride is overevaluating my power. When I had an average of 245 watts on this segment with Inride, my powertap gave me a mere 210 watts. I stopped two times before this interval to do a spindown and this didn't change a thing! That's 35 watts less!

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    Claude Gauthier

    Also, I had to try each time twice so the spindown test worked. Each first time the window closed without havind done the test!

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    Ismo Lieke

    How does the Kinetic Inride spindown calibration work in the new iOS app? Also, is it somehow possible to configure a warming period before the actual workout?

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    Johan Hoogeveen

    I have the same question as Ismo Lieke: it doesn't seem possible to calibrate the Inride using the iOS app (yet?).

    Maybe related:
    During the first couple of rides I’ve been doing with the iOS app - Trainerroad combination I’ve been noticing a huge drop in displayed power after a powerful sprint. So with the same perceived effort as before (say I was doing 250 watts with not too much effort) and suddenly I’m doing like 60 watts lower @ the same perceived effort level after said sprint. On my last ride it was basically undoable to keep hitting the resting watt (110ish) after the last interval. All the earlier intervals felt good/stable. It's as of the Inride decided to make things a lot harder. Kind of frustrating :)

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    Xiaoping Zhao

    Is possible to use inride + bt doggle and Garmin speed/cadence + ant+ doggle on my PC at the same time?

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    Claude Gauthier

    simple answer is yes

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    Claude Gauthier

    Got a new Inride and installed it. Worked fine but went dead after I tried to do a spindown calibration. Is not pairing since. I took my daughter Ipod and it paired fine. So the problem is with the PC. Also, I have the pro flywheel and when I selected it the power had a 30 watts surge which was over the real power. I unchecked it and power went back to what my powermeter displayed. I uninstalled the bluegiga dongle completely from my pc. Even downloaded the drivers but nothing worked.

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    Tim van Halteren

    I have the same experience as 'Johan Hoogeveen' 4 post above this one. But I recorded in parallel to both an iPad (via Inride) and a computer (via ANT+) and in my case right after the first 8 minute full gas section the Inride showed 40W less for the remaining part of the ride, including the second 8 minute section which I know I did at the same power. The ANT recording showed both 8 minute sections as the same and the Inride recording showed a difference of 40W.

    And just as with 'Johan Hoogeveen' this happened right after a powerful section.

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    Florian Gabriel

    Hi! I also have problems with the inride with a mac (osx yosemite). It´s the second unit - i changed it because i thought the problem was within the inride untit. But it isnt! It seems so that there is a problem with the trainerroad app for osx. Inride will pair fine but i won´t get power and cadence values. With the kurt kinetic inride app everything is fine. Also the trainerroad app for ios works fine, but there is no way to calibrate the inride (no spindown calibration within the app). Please help soon, otherwise i will to cancel my trainerroad account. Thank you!!!

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    Alex Kizis

    Hi Florian,

    We (Kinetic, Apple and TrainerRoad) are still working through the inRide issues on Yosemite. We'll be sure to push an app update and let everyone know once things get sorted.

    In the meantime, as you've noticed, you can use the TR iOS application with the inRide. We haven't added the in-app spindown function just yet, but we will be doing so soon!

    The good news is that you can use the inRide iOS application to perform the spindown calibration in the interim. The calibration value is only stored within the inRide itself, so it doesn't matter if you use an application outside of TR to conduct the calibration.

    For example, if you calibrate your inRide using the Kinetic inRide iPhone app, it will be stored within the inRide itself. Then, when you connect your inRide to the TrainerRoad iPhone app, that stored calibration value will be applied to the power readings that are displayed and recorded within TR.

    I know it's slightly inconvenient to have to use a 3rd party app to do the calibration, but rest assured we'll be implementing the in-app calibration feature in the TR iOS app soon!

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    Ismo Lieke

    Hi Alex,

    The calibration using Kinetic ios app works just like you described and the power figures are after that shown fine in Trainerroad ios app. As you are obviously working with the Trainerroad application development, you must be aware of another InRide related bug, unfortunately much more annoying than the calibration using a separate app. I am absolutely sure that Trainerroad is working hard to get the issue fixed as soon as possible, but I feel it would perhaps be right to mention the problem, when suggesting the use of InRide and Trainerroad.

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    Alex Kizis

    Hi Ismo,

    Yes, we're aware of the various issues that are currently affecting the inRide. The good news is that we're hard at work with Kinetic fixing them! Stay tuned for updates.

    If members encounter any issues with Yosemite or otherwise, we're happy to help on a case-by-case basis. Don't hesitate to contact our support staff at support@trainerroad.com.

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    luke cico

    I'm having these Sam problems with inRide with trainer road on Mavericks. It connects but power reads zero watts. Signal level is 'excellent'. Spin down never starts. I tried then iOS app but no video support or calibration.

    I end up using a video on the tv. Then trainer road below it telling me what power to push and the kinetic app for actual power measurements. its a big kludge.

    I think I'm going to have to suspend until some of this stuff gets worked out. Not worth it anymore.

    Sorry. Nice idea and good product and support has been great but it's too buggy.

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    Alex Kizis

    Hey Luke,

    Sorry to hear you're having issues with the inRide. :( We are continuing to work to fix things.

    I'd like to clarify what OS you're on. You mentioned you're on Mavericks. Most inRide users experience issues if they are running Yosemite (Apple's latest OS release). Have you recently updated your OS?

    We'll be releasing video support as well as in-app calibration for our iOS application soon! Currently, you can calibrate your inRide using the Kinetic app. That calibration value is actually stored within the inRide and not the app you used to calibrate it with. This means, your calibration value will be applied to your readings when you connect the inRide to the TrainerRoad iOS app.

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    luke cico

    Hi again Alex

    Thanks for the reply. Appreciate how prompt you've been with questions and comments.

    I'll try the calibration trick until the fixes are in.

    I think I'll be sticking with the iOS app for now until things get fixed.

    To answer your question ... I made a mistake. I'm actually on Yosemite, not Mavericks.

    But I've always had problems connecting in the past. Even on Mavericks. It's just a lot worse now. But the inRide does seem to connect with the iOS app as well as other iOS apps like the kinetic app (one would hope so). So it doesn't appear to be the device.

    I'm warming up to the iOS app. But id love to see a few things added to make it more useful. Please Consider these comments for product improvement:
    Integrated video support
    Spin down support for inRide
    Ability to project the video appleTV while the controls are kept on the iOS device screen.
    ipad app (more screen real estate)

    Just ideas.

    Thanks for the support.

    Luke.

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    Alex Kizis

    Hey Luke,

    That sounds good! There won't be any difference in your power readings regardless of what app/device you calibrate with since the calibration value is stored within the inRide itself. Calibrating will just be more convenient when we add the functionality straight into the app.

    Hopefully we'll be getting the inRide issues fixed soon. We're working with Kinetic to do this.

    • We'll be adding integrated video support soon, although I don't yet have an ETA on this.
    • Spin down support for inRide is on it's way as well.
    • We don't have plans for Apple TV integration at the moment. I'm not sure if that's possible, but I'll run this by our developers!
    • The iPad specific layout is very close to being ready. :) We'll be updating everyone on that soon!

    Thanks for the feedback, Luke. Much appreciated!

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    amy inderkum

    I am new to both TR and InRide. I completed my first ride today and my power was off...I am sure it was because I could not figure out how to calibrate. After the 20 min test, my FTP was only 64. I was working my tail off and I am sure my FTP should have been higher. I have been cycling for a few years and know FTP should have been higher. I want to make sure I understand what you mentioned above. I have never owned a power meter before and want to make sure I am using the InRide correctly. To calibrate I need to...open up my InRide app on my iPad and begin a workout, just until I can calibrate. Then close that app and open up the TR app and begin my scheduled workout there? Do I only need to do this once each workout-at the beginning of the workout? Thanks so much!

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    Alex Kizis

    Hi Amy,

    If you're using the TrainerRoad app on your iPhone or iPad, you will need to calibrate your inRide with the inRide app before starting your TrainerRoad workout. You should only need to do this once before the workout. No need to stop mid-way through and recalibrate.

    You can also use the TrainerRoad Desktop app (pictured above) to perform the calibration.

    As I've said, we will be adding the built-in calibration feature to our iPhone/iPad app soon! :)

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    amy inderkum

    Thanks for the support Alex. I will try this today. As of right now, I can only use the IPad to run both TR and InRide. I do not have Bluetooth on my Desktop. I may purchase a bluetooth adapter for my computer in the future. Right now, i will give this a try. I am very excited about using TR. THANKS!

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    luke cico

    Don't mean to butt in but that ftp is so off I wonder if it's only a calibration issue. An uncalibrated inride usually results in a power reading that is too high not too low. And usually a difference of like 10%. At least that's what I remember DC Rainmaker reporting in his tests.

    You might want to double check the battery and make sure it's not too low and making the unit sporadic. Or maybe the flywheel needs tightening against the rear wheel. Maybe that's too loose and you're slipping and therefore not getting enough power. And make sure you always disconnect the app from the inride when done or the inride battery will die quickly. Alex alerted me to that.

    The calibration process should tell you if something is amiss. I would think if you're slipping or the unit has a weak signal, etc, the calibration process will fail. You probably wouldn't be able to get to the 23 mph speed the cal program wants. Try calibrating with the kinetic app.

    Food for thought.

    You'll be happy with the inride and TR. It's a good system.

    Happy riding.

    Luke

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    amy inderkum

    Luke, Thanks for adding to the discussion. I did see that at times, the power would cut out all together on the ride for a quick second and then flash back on. I was so new to power meters and the program I was not sure what to think. I could not figure out how to calibrate on the TR app, I did not know that function did not exist. Thanks to this thread, I now know that I need to calibrate on my IPad in the InRide app and then begin my ride in TR. I have to use the app for TR, I do not have a bluetooth adapter for my desktop.
    Today, I set it back up and took it for a spin. It looks like everything was working ok today, my power was reading above 200. I may have had things set up incorrectly as well, we moved it and reset up everything again-while watching the youtube videos on set up for the Kinetic Road Trainer.

    I want to keep track of my mileage for the year too. Do you keep track of your mileage on the InRide App? I did not see mileage at all on the TR app page? I know that TR focuses on power, not mileage. But, I like to keep track of that as well. I know this is only my 2nd time on the program and I am hoping the more I mess around with it the easier it is to navigate. I really do appreciate your help and Alex has been fantastic too!

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    luke cico

    Hi Again Amy

    I use strava. I download my TR workout from their website. Then upload it to strava. That way all my miles (road miles and trainer miles and workouts ) are on one site. Strava also lets you see your TR stats. It's nice.

    Yes, the TR support from Alex is quite good. He is very responsive and knowledgable. He deserves kudos from those of us getting through these initial bumps in the road. No pun intended.

    Luke

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    Alexandru Serban

    I second the Apple TV integration, if possible.

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